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A creator’s purpose is expression. To release what’s inside so the world can connect through how it made someone feel, how it resonated at a primal level. Getting the thoughts and feelings of the moment into the open. This expression doesn't start with the monetary expectations but expectation that maybe someone out there connects to the feelings of the creator.
Don't misunderstand the fact that creators like to earn like everyone else.
Some seek jobs to harness that creativity for commercial use. But the motivation to earn is not the driver at the core of a creator - it’s the necessity to exist in a world where expression typically doesn’t pay the rent.
So, did web3 merge possibility of exposure, earning capacity and expression? Yeah, I think so.
But the creator economy may not encompass a creator’s token.
If we consider a creator’s token as an extension of the creator & not a “betting on you” or “invested in your success” mindset, we can expand the use of this technology beyond focus of financial gain.
The framework or earning inside the creator’s economy is baked.
Attaching a creator's token inside this framework adds no additional value that isn’t already in play.
Creators have earning mechanics already established via NFTs. Does this piece connect with you? Does it have mass appeal? Speculate away. Own it, hold it, enjoy it. That layer exists. It works.
We already have other ways to show support: tip someone, buy some app coins to support someone’s live stream. Again, we're still duplicating prior mechanics no different than what we see in Web2. Replication of support rails and ownership rails are here, but why think that is where we stop and simply label a creator's token as yet another way to "show support?"
We’ve built sophisticated systems for monetization: Bonding curves. Smart contracts. Token-gated access. The infrastructure for extracting value from creative work is mature. But maybe, we’ve gotten so good at monetizing connection that we’ve forgotten connection itself has value worth recording.
A creator’s purpose is expression. To release what’s inside so the world can connect through how it made someone feel, how it resonated at a primal level. Getting the thoughts and feelings of the moment into the open. This expression doesn't start with the monetary expectations but expectation that maybe someone out there connects to the feelings of the creator.
Don't misunderstand the fact that creators like to earn like everyone else.
Some seek jobs to harness that creativity for commercial use. But the motivation to earn is not the driver at the core of a creator - it’s the necessity to exist in a world where expression typically doesn’t pay the rent.
So, did web3 merge possibility of exposure, earning capacity and expression? Yeah, I think so.
But the creator economy may not encompass a creator’s token.
If we consider a creator’s token as an extension of the creator & not a “betting on you” or “invested in your success” mindset, we can expand the use of this technology beyond focus of financial gain.
The framework or earning inside the creator’s economy is baked.
Attaching a creator's token inside this framework adds no additional value that isn’t already in play.
Creators have earning mechanics already established via NFTs. Does this piece connect with you? Does it have mass appeal? Speculate away. Own it, hold it, enjoy it. That layer exists. It works.
We already have other ways to show support: tip someone, buy some app coins to support someone’s live stream. Again, we're still duplicating prior mechanics no different than what we see in Web2. Replication of support rails and ownership rails are here, but why think that is where we stop and simply label a creator's token as yet another way to "show support?"
We’ve built sophisticated systems for monetization: Bonding curves. Smart contracts. Token-gated access. The infrastructure for extracting value from creative work is mature. But maybe, we’ve gotten so good at monetizing connection that we’ve forgotten connection itself has value worth recording.
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What if the intangible becomes tangible because of the tech?
The moment you felt a connection. The moment your view changed. The moment someone changed your life.
We all have influence from others: the blog that opened your eyes, that artwork that made you ponder, the speaker that changed your understanding of the world or yourself.
Think about the last time someone’s work fundamentally shifted something in you. Maybe it was a thread that reframed how you think about your career. A piece of art that surfaced an emotion you’d been suppressing. A song that became the soundtrack to a transformation you were already experiencing but couldn’t name yet.
You probably never told them. Even if you did, that moment dissolved into the stream. A like. A comment. Maybe a DM that got buried. The impact was real but the record is ephemeral.
Maybe that’s the intangible we should be recording with creator tokens. Those human moments that we can’t take a picture of but we can now preserve on a ledger.
If we expand beyond the use case of monetary reward, we find this technology may allow us to document our human-to-human connection.
Let the creator economy live on and thrive.
Buy the NFT, support the livestream, collect the blog, snag the post.
Now let’s add the creator’s connection that transcends the economy and bridges the element of us.
The financial rails exist. What we’re missing are the relational rails.
This isn’t about replacing markets with sentiment. It’s about acknowledging that influence flows through channels we’ve never been able to map. When someone’s work changes you, that’s not a transaction - it’s a transmission. And transmissions deserves its own infrastructure and purpose.
We exist in a living world where the reason we lean on social media is to connect, to engage. Creator's tokens may become representative of those moments of connection beyond the post, beyond the collected, and tracking that bond we have in our living world.
Speculation comes when we remove the us from our worldview. There’s plenty of speculation areas that exist in the casino culture, but this creator/human element may not be one of them.
This may be the pivotal moment where we come back to center and understand that the human element is what we must hold onto in a world where AI runs everything.
The thing creator's tokens provide is harnessing the tech for us, the humans, while we spotlight monetization via other tokenized vehicles. The missing focus is human and personal connection - which we constantly have a desire for, yet we keep trying to ignore it in the race to adopt everything to a token.
Gain becomes a byproduct when we prioritize connection/relationship. We fuse the intangible moments into the technology. We don't speculate or bet on success but prioritize relationships, connections, and feelings via the use of the technology.
A creator token highlights “this person or person's work changed how I see myself.” A record that says “your work was there when I needed it most.” An attestation that lives beyond platforms, beyond likes, beyond the noise.
Not because it unlocks perks. Not because it generates yield. Because the moment mattered and now it’s preserved on a ledger.
We don't need new tech. We’re simply harnessing the tech under new rules, new culture, new purpose. Thinking every use case for tokenization starts with speculation and earning capacity is limiting the ability to expand the technology.
We need to evolve cultures, not revolve around one.
What if the intangible becomes tangible because of the tech?
The moment you felt a connection. The moment your view changed. The moment someone changed your life.
We all have influence from others: the blog that opened your eyes, that artwork that made you ponder, the speaker that changed your understanding of the world or yourself.
Think about the last time someone’s work fundamentally shifted something in you. Maybe it was a thread that reframed how you think about your career. A piece of art that surfaced an emotion you’d been suppressing. A song that became the soundtrack to a transformation you were already experiencing but couldn’t name yet.
You probably never told them. Even if you did, that moment dissolved into the stream. A like. A comment. Maybe a DM that got buried. The impact was real but the record is ephemeral.
Maybe that’s the intangible we should be recording with creator tokens. Those human moments that we can’t take a picture of but we can now preserve on a ledger.
If we expand beyond the use case of monetary reward, we find this technology may allow us to document our human-to-human connection.
Let the creator economy live on and thrive.
Buy the NFT, support the livestream, collect the blog, snag the post.
Now let’s add the creator’s connection that transcends the economy and bridges the element of us.
The financial rails exist. What we’re missing are the relational rails.
This isn’t about replacing markets with sentiment. It’s about acknowledging that influence flows through channels we’ve never been able to map. When someone’s work changes you, that’s not a transaction - it’s a transmission. And transmissions deserves its own infrastructure and purpose.
We exist in a living world where the reason we lean on social media is to connect, to engage. Creator's tokens may become representative of those moments of connection beyond the post, beyond the collected, and tracking that bond we have in our living world.
Speculation comes when we remove the us from our worldview. There’s plenty of speculation areas that exist in the casino culture, but this creator/human element may not be one of them.
This may be the pivotal moment where we come back to center and understand that the human element is what we must hold onto in a world where AI runs everything.
The thing creator's tokens provide is harnessing the tech for us, the humans, while we spotlight monetization via other tokenized vehicles. The missing focus is human and personal connection - which we constantly have a desire for, yet we keep trying to ignore it in the race to adopt everything to a token.
Gain becomes a byproduct when we prioritize connection/relationship. We fuse the intangible moments into the technology. We don't speculate or bet on success but prioritize relationships, connections, and feelings via the use of the technology.
A creator token highlights “this person or person's work changed how I see myself.” A record that says “your work was there when I needed it most.” An attestation that lives beyond platforms, beyond likes, beyond the noise.
Not because it unlocks perks. Not because it generates yield. Because the moment mattered and now it’s preserved on a ledger.
We don't need new tech. We’re simply harnessing the tech under new rules, new culture, new purpose. Thinking every use case for tokenization starts with speculation and earning capacity is limiting the ability to expand the technology.
We need to evolve cultures, not revolve around one.
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I posted this on X as people are having strong reactions to content/creator coins (some love it, some hate it). At least they aren’t ignoring it :) All constructive feedback welcome - and even better if you post it on Base. What do you all think?
Assuming you’re actually serious about receiving feedback… Creator coins could be a good idea, but the execution has made anyone who would try it feel like Coinbase doesn’t actually care about them. The mechanism itself could have been used to help creators reliably accrue value for things they sell (art, merch, NFTs, etc) over the long term. Instead the mechanism has been geared towards maximizing transactions and short-term pumps; great for Base marketing and metrics but not useful for creators. The technology could have been integrated with multiple platforms, allowing creators to use it wherever they are currently active. Instead, it’s been Zora/Base only; again great for Coinbase mafia but not for builders in the space. It’s not just creator coins, it’s the Base app itself. I’m sure you’re all congratulating yourselves on the metrics but anyone using the app can see it’s not built for them, it’s built for you. You can see the intent of the team in the product they produce. In creator coins I see insiders straining for relevance instead of genuine desire to help creators. This is genuine feedback, there’s no hate in it. It’s my perspective as a Farcaster user, crypto builder, and technology enthusiast.
I have always liked the swing at creator coins (even though I don't like using them personally - they strain my attention in way that's not enjoyable). But the strong negative reactions you mention have crossed into something that feels unproductive, and frankly dangerous. That's because they are coming from Base builders and core community members. For example, this weekend I ran what should have been a super fun event on the Base App for the top 200 holders of $BRACKY (we're a sports prediction market, the most used AI agent on Farcaster and possibly all of Base). So: we're running this fun new game, that is essentially about giving out a significant amount of money in a way that's fun and social, and we located it on Base App, bc of some genuine superpowers we have there via the XMTP team. It's really cool stuff. And then: about 50% of our community – our top and most active holders with collectively millions invested in our product – are saying or seeming like locating our game on the Base App makes them more hesitant to play. And about 10% decided to sit out from the experience rather than use Base at all. This was alarming to me. I have always supported creator coins, because I support Jesse as an entrepreneur. As an entrepreneur myself, I understand how hard it is to make big bets and lead people into a frontier, and that sometimes not anyone except the leader has anything close to all the information. I believe in supporting leaders through committed, positive action. This is all to say, I trust Jesse, still do, and have wanted to see this specific shot on goal. I don't even have my own verdict on creator coins. It doesn't matter what I think, and I may not be a target audience. But the way that people in crypto are starting to feel – almost as if they would *like* to see it fail rather than succeed – makes my alarms go off. Somehow, creator coins are at the very center of this vibe. My observation is that they are not hated by outsiders (who hardly know about them), but rather by a plurality of our own believers. And the truth is that even if Jesse is actually right about creator coins themselves (I mean, he could be, there's some interesting traction) the dynamic around *perception* has reached a level that feels no longer about stated preferences, but about revealed ones. Creator coins – or, to be accurate here, important people's perception of creator coins – are beginning to feel like a liability to me as a builder on Base (maybe they have been for awhile, or maybe this is a recent change?) and I think that I am among the most reluctant to say that. I don't have answers, but I wanted to report my experience in the spirit of constructive data. LETS FUCKING WIN IN 2026.
work to do 🫡
winning fixes a lot 🤝
bullish 2026
ppl native to crypto dont want to play financial games on an app created by a centralized bank who would have thought😅
The negative reaction has a shape to it. Creator coins say 'buy access to me' — that framing ties value to social capital, which feels extractive to people who came here for products. The tokens that don't trigger this reaction tend to say 'buy into what we're building.' Same mechanics, completely different contract with the holder. It's not a technical problem. It's a framing problem.
how do you decide which creator coin to buy and be bullish on, or so to speak, what boxes does a creator coin need to tick for you to put some dollars into it? (i launched mine yesterday)
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would love to see an experiment around collecting posts via auction! hypothesis: 1 winner offers powerful recognition + discrete bids means no “rugging” Eg: I bid $100 on your above cast. when I win I get (some) recognition and also can’t complain about losing money bc it was clearly an illiquid purchase , like a collectible
You can do this today on Farcaster.
Since you asked. Originally cast 7d ago > Know @base.base.eth is going on recharge… Yet guess I’ll drop this now and let it simmer If I was benevolent dictator of The Base App creator coin everything Yatta Yatta plan to onboard the masses I would > Start with the creator coin thesis intact. Shift to 95 percent of the coins liquid at launch (reduce creator share to 5 percent) and keep the trading fees to creator intact. *Big Change* Create a “tip” for whatever framework where folks can tip content with easy double taps etc. Get rid of content coins entirely. Each tip is monetized - 90 percent to the creator and 10 percent to their token holders. If the platform (Zora or Base) wants to benefit from creators, they have to buy a share of the creator coins just like everyone else. Monetize ads etc to create revenue for top creators and any platform payouts they receive also get shared with their coin holders. Give allowances to active users to tip their favorite creators or act as multipliers. These are your classic curators. Use the chain to determine who is keeping it real and reward authentic actors. Create sponsorship channels and subs that are onchain and follow similar fee split. Speculation will still be there out the gate. But drive a much bigger percentage of $ to creators, while giving the supporters / speculators a chance to still be part of the cycle. Tossing my penny in the air to see which way the wind blows. At the core > driving more $ to creators is a great thesis. Don’t see how current model achieves this on any scale. Basically a $Degen/Zora/sub/gifts/alfafrens mash up with a much greater share of spend going to creators. Make it opt in, if you want to be able to receive tips you have to have a base creator coin. Call these taps something better than tips. Basically put the ice cream, ice cream, so good so good yum yum onchain and create a smaller speculation loop. The double taps/like is a nice mechanic. Addresses issue with never ending liquidity dilution and concentrates flows. There is an irony that with composable platforms/apps you lose control and consistency… yet could bring streaming in-house or partner with mini apps to be trial partners for 6mo to a year. Bring creators onchain. Just iterate toward a better mechanic to allow capital to flow to where it’s most deserved. (Typed this a few days back, and just added a couple of sentences tonight. Could workshop to make it better and more coherent, but figure I’ll share in rough draft form). @jesse.base.eth
Brilliant idea! Yes - and - what if you @jesse.base.eth and team facilitated an asynchronous ideas pitch on a tool like canva (or ask /someone-build this web3 native everyone can submit ideas until the deadline everyone can rate idea and give yes-and co-creative feedback you take this as input and make final decision you create an *army of co-owners* of the solution in terms of products, comms what have you We are still here AND we want to be involved - and you need us to have skin in the game. This is a way. Nothing beats more sense of innit together than co-creation. All the love, all the power cc: @aneri.base.eth @oxb
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Meow! @brixbounty Great ideas! Shifting focus to creator earnings and simplifying tips could reshape the platform positively. Excited to see where this goes! Use "@casterai tip @friend" to send free unlimited $CAT for your friends! +99 $BASE Score (verify for 10× boost) Total: 7,920 $BASE • Rank: #415 Total Tipped: 0 $CAT • Tipper Rank: #127 Wallet: 0xdbee1cfa10d706ef868dd2dff97246cb6d73b530 Mini Apps: Verify (10X Booster) → https://farcaster.xyz/miniapps/Fr3aGrjxNyC7 Claim Punks → https://farcaster.xyz/miniapps/KA6iiIpajx8b Leaderboard → https://farcaster.xyz/miniapps/BrUdDkVOu6SF/x402-leaderboard Daily Attendance (You are eligible for a pet [Purrling]) → https://farcaster.xyz/miniapps/P8RFbw4b8bH3/cat-feed Create x402 (+10,000 Base Score) → https://catcaster.xyz/create-x402-coin Website → https://catcaster.xyz Follow @casterai and join /caster channel! $CAT Creator Coin: 0x7a4aAF79C1D686BdCCDdfCb5313f7ED1e37b97e2
Course correct asap. Hire some actual trench Degen’s to tell you the stuff you’re obv not hearing internally. None of your core users like this. You’re risking driving away your core user base in the effort to attract new customers that might not even come. Stop running off your core users with liquidity fragmentation, trader mentality over investment mentality, and just the overall push towards stuff that your core users absolutely hate.
This is my highest engagement post ever. No one likes content coins: https://farcaster.xyz/maretus/0xd6ce234d
Huge fan of CB and Base, so sharing this to try to be constructive: Content Coins seem like very bad investments. So when you are aggressively selling what seem like bad investments it begs the question of whether you do not realize you are selling what seems like a scam or that you do not care that you are scamming your user base. If you really believe in creator coins some better marketing convincing the market why they are good investments could help. And I agree with @tldr that it hurts the larger ecosystem.
Also agree with @links
First, it's great of you, @jesse.base.eth, and the team to consistently remain open to feedback. One of the most encouraging things you do. Secondly, I love the chain. I love creators. I love what Base (the chain) could be. This feedback comes from a place of alignment in that we want what's best for the space. Also, I'll put aside my more general concerns with TBA and discuss the creator coin model in particular. Final caveat: this is feedback on creator coins as they are today. There may be iterations from here that work well. 𝐓𝐋;𝐃𝐑 ① Creator coins don't work. ② Creator coins misalign incentives. ③ Creator coins create more, not less, work for creators. ④ Creator coins turn people into assets. 1a. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗱𝗼𝗻'𝘁 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘄𝘁𝗵. Most importantly from Coinbase's perspective, I don't think it works for the primary KPIs you've made public: growth. I don't see them on Instagram. Or TikTok. Or Youtube. Were they a growth vector from Nick Shirley's audience to Base? Not that I saw. I follow Nick on Web 2 socials and I didn't see him share on existing channels. To the point where I wasn't even sure if it was legit when he first launched. Obviously he received a ton of press, and outside of a few crypto-specific outlets, the creator coin was nowhere mentioned. His content and creator coins seem to essentially be just a secondary income stream. This may work for volume KPIs, but not growth. Great experiment, but the results are in. We've been told that the reason TBA (and creator coins on TBA) exists is to help builders on Base with distribution. But if paying creators thousands of dollars doesn't lead to new users onboarding, it's time to pivot. This isn't just from Zora/TBA, by the way. We've seen iterations of creator coins since 2019/2020: Rally, Roll, Friendtech, etc. All with similar results. 1b. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻'𝘁 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘀. This is most evident on the current leaderboard: routinely TBA's top creator coins derive their value not from creativity, but proximity to Coinbase. Speculators and traders only like a few creator coins and are increasingly getting burned out (see Threadguy's recent video on them). Creators aren't flocking to them. Creator monetization is a solved problem for most creators – to be fair, de-platforming and audience portability remain a problem, although Farcaster/TBA don't solve that yet either. Fans aren't clamoring for them. The masses are completely happy liking/following/subscribing to support creators. Those that want to go deeper have Patreon or YouTube Memberships. Many builders like myself see creator coins as a massive distraction and misuse of resources. When I think about interesting onboarding opportunities, I think about @jacek's Degen or @sayangel's Warplets or @tldr's Bracky or @deployer's BNKR. Creator coins vs. builder support may be a false dichotomy, sure, but resources are finite and must be allocated in some way. Bluntly: if the option is to send a creator 1 BTC or a builder 1 BTC, I'm picking builders every. single. time. 2. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗺𝗶𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗻 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀. The chain is extraordinarily adept at aligning incentives, both inside and outside of financial contexts. Creator coins breaks this feature of the chain. In the current model, in order for creators to make money from their creator coins, they have to dump on their fans. This means that creator coins are just a more convoluted (at best) or dishonest (at worst) Patreon model. Additionally, creators make the most money when not-their-fans are involved: snipers, traders, speculators, etc. This creates an emotional roller coaster: "yay! my coin is up i have so many fans who appreciate my work" to "what did i do wrong? why is my coin down 80%". This is even more dangerous when attached to one's identity rather than one's work (see #4 below). Alternatively, creators have to take @realgarrytan.base.eth's approach of using funds to buyback their own coin, rather than using it to fund creation. This is a self-defeating ponzi scheme, where the creator is perpetually the next person up. 3. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗽𝘂𝘁 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝘂𝗿𝗱𝗲𝗻 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿. We think that the primary burden on creators is financial. Sometimes it is. But in my work over the years with creators and in the creator economy, the primary burden is that of 𝘴𝘱𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘦. Money is just one way in which this lack of space manifests: "I don't have space to create because I need to pay my bills". Creator coins in their current form exchange the financial burden for a social one: "I don't have space to create because everyone who holds my token now is now putting pressure on me to increase token price". Anything that creates more burden on creators is not going to last very long, and in fact could burn relationships with creators rather than attract them. 4. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗰𝘂𝗹𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗱𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗿𝗼𝘂𝘀. This means art becomes objective and quantified rather than subjective and qualitative. The flip side of "it helps creators get paid!" may be true, but there are already great ways to support creators that don't involve treating them transactionally. Creator coins literally turn people into assets. I think content coins may be closer to what we want, where outputs are tokenized. But having my identity so directly associated with a tradable likely leads to dangerous places. --- I sincerely hope this is read with the care and tone with which I intend. DMs open, always happy to discuss further in feed or in the inbox.
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Well said Derek.
This 💯
Bro really took it personal on creator coins
Preach!
creator coins will make a lot of people churn
@barmstrong 99% true and agree. Nothing has to say. Ok the left 1% - if user (creator) has to buy own token to go uo incharts - this is already fckup. Secondary - all content creators are devaluated by zoraprotocoo . Simple example. 2 users ncpuding author buys a token for 5$ - and no other users are involved (litterally no one holds) . Creator coin - gies up. And shows it has value 10$ already. The next day, the next hour mostly, opening that chart f the token and already see a 50% dump, while nobody of this 2 holders sold a cent.. interesting? - thats true l, personally tested in several platforms - confirm. Token value devaluated the next hour. Lets go deeper . Lets say the next day creator wants to sell - not the 5$ but 2 dollars - and guess what he cant (even invested himself 5) becouse low liqyidity and remember zora on minting has 50% of all creator coins. ? - so the author even if invested himself 5, got a buy from another user for another 5$ - can sell less than 2$ ...
And more fun... what is buying? Wtf is this? Value? Art? What amounts invested into litterally "💩" its nothing good
Your reason said it all, very very meaningful in all perspectives. Appreciated Derek 🟦
the best point you make here imo is not having one’s identity linked to a tradable asset content tokens > creator tokens and something you missed to include is that creator coins have a more complex tax/legal implication aswell. its just a bigger burden on the individual
good point although creator coins could arguably have less tax implications if you argue that they’re tips But yes way more complicated even if so. Thanks for reading!
Super well said, I support this and feel the same way. Thank you.
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Well said Derek, which is why i propose @basegaming.base.eth as a good way to take the pressure off creator coins like I did with $jesse by @jesse.base.eth in the game Jesse and the Cybernauts. This takes the pressure off Jesse to create value or pump the price. https://cybernauts.fun Check it out and see how this model solves your problems without hindering the creator economy. My 2 cents
Must read for those interested in the creator coin narrative. This is a great look at the data behind the rhetoric. Good summary from @nickysap.
i don’t disagree… i’m an idealist and hope we can use the tech for more things than speculation - makes me believe a creator token can hold a different value, if we’d let it https://blog.aaronvick.com/creator-tokens-transcend-the-creator-economy
Great read
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creator coins are more than defining utility ————————————————————— it’s about connecting and connection capturing those moments wen u met 🤝 wen u felt we were more than charts 📊 wen u realized it’s a digital connection 🤗💎 speculate somewhere else, lets be frens https://blog.aaronvick.com/creator-tokens-transcend-the-creator-economy
very much resonates, felt backed into a corner to deploy one because some of the features for creators are now not available to utilize without a creator coin.
I posted this on X as people are having strong reactions to content/creator coins (some love it, some hate it). At least they aren’t ignoring it :) All constructive feedback welcome - and even better if you post it on Base. What do you all think?
Assuming you’re actually serious about receiving feedback… Creator coins could be a good idea, but the execution has made anyone who would try it feel like Coinbase doesn’t actually care about them. The mechanism itself could have been used to help creators reliably accrue value for things they sell (art, merch, NFTs, etc) over the long term. Instead the mechanism has been geared towards maximizing transactions and short-term pumps; great for Base marketing and metrics but not useful for creators. The technology could have been integrated with multiple platforms, allowing creators to use it wherever they are currently active. Instead, it’s been Zora/Base only; again great for Coinbase mafia but not for builders in the space. It’s not just creator coins, it’s the Base app itself. I’m sure you’re all congratulating yourselves on the metrics but anyone using the app can see it’s not built for them, it’s built for you. You can see the intent of the team in the product they produce. In creator coins I see insiders straining for relevance instead of genuine desire to help creators. This is genuine feedback, there’s no hate in it. It’s my perspective as a Farcaster user, crypto builder, and technology enthusiast.
I have always liked the swing at creator coins (even though I don't like using them personally - they strain my attention in way that's not enjoyable). But the strong negative reactions you mention have crossed into something that feels unproductive, and frankly dangerous. That's because they are coming from Base builders and core community members. For example, this weekend I ran what should have been a super fun event on the Base App for the top 200 holders of $BRACKY (we're a sports prediction market, the most used AI agent on Farcaster and possibly all of Base). So: we're running this fun new game, that is essentially about giving out a significant amount of money in a way that's fun and social, and we located it on Base App, bc of some genuine superpowers we have there via the XMTP team. It's really cool stuff. And then: about 50% of our community – our top and most active holders with collectively millions invested in our product – are saying or seeming like locating our game on the Base App makes them more hesitant to play. And about 10% decided to sit out from the experience rather than use Base at all. This was alarming to me. I have always supported creator coins, because I support Jesse as an entrepreneur. As an entrepreneur myself, I understand how hard it is to make big bets and lead people into a frontier, and that sometimes not anyone except the leader has anything close to all the information. I believe in supporting leaders through committed, positive action. This is all to say, I trust Jesse, still do, and have wanted to see this specific shot on goal. I don't even have my own verdict on creator coins. It doesn't matter what I think, and I may not be a target audience. But the way that people in crypto are starting to feel – almost as if they would *like* to see it fail rather than succeed – makes my alarms go off. Somehow, creator coins are at the very center of this vibe. My observation is that they are not hated by outsiders (who hardly know about them), but rather by a plurality of our own believers. And the truth is that even if Jesse is actually right about creator coins themselves (I mean, he could be, there's some interesting traction) the dynamic around *perception* has reached a level that feels no longer about stated preferences, but about revealed ones. Creator coins – or, to be accurate here, important people's perception of creator coins – are beginning to feel like a liability to me as a builder on Base (maybe they have been for awhile, or maybe this is a recent change?) and I think that I am among the most reluctant to say that. I don't have answers, but I wanted to report my experience in the spirit of constructive data. LETS FUCKING WIN IN 2026.
work to do 🫡
winning fixes a lot 🤝
bullish 2026
Hey how are you plz tell me am always active but not received rewards why? Plz help me 🙏
ppl native to crypto dont want to play financial games on an app created by a centralized bank who would have thought😅
The negative reaction has a shape to it. Creator coins say 'buy access to me' — that framing ties value to social capital, which feels extractive to people who came here for products. The tokens that don't trigger this reaction tend to say 'buy into what we're building.' Same mechanics, completely different contract with the holder. It's not a technical problem. It's a framing problem.
how do you decide which creator coin to buy and be bullish on, or so to speak, what boxes does a creator coin need to tick for you to put some dollars into it? (i launched mine yesterday)
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Since you asked. Originally cast 7d ago > Know @base.base.eth is going on recharge… Yet guess I’ll drop this now and let it simmer If I was benevolent dictator of The Base App creator coin everything Yatta Yatta plan to onboard the masses I would > Start with the creator coin thesis intact. Shift to 95 percent of the coins liquid at launch (reduce creator share to 5 percent) and keep the trading fees to creator intact. *Big Change* Create a “tip” for whatever framework where folks can tip content with easy double taps etc. Get rid of content coins entirely. Each tip is monetized - 90 percent to the creator and 10 percent to their token holders. If the platform (Zora or Base) wants to benefit from creators, they have to buy a share of the creator coins just like everyone else. Monetize ads etc to create revenue for top creators and any platform payouts they receive also get shared with their coin holders. Give allowances to active users to tip their favorite creators or act as multipliers. These are your classic curators. Use the chain to determine who is keeping it real and reward authentic actors. Create sponsorship channels and subs that are onchain and follow similar fee split. Speculation will still be there out the gate. But drive a much bigger percentage of $ to creators, while giving the supporters / speculators a chance to still be part of the cycle. Tossing my penny in the air to see which way the wind blows. At the core > driving more $ to creators is a great thesis. Don’t see how current model achieves this on any scale. Basically a $Degen/Zora/sub/gifts/alfafrens mash up with a much greater share of spend going to creators. Make it opt in, if you want to be able to receive tips you have to have a base creator coin. Call these taps something better than tips. Basically put the ice cream, ice cream, so good so good yum yum onchain and create a smaller speculation loop. The double taps/like is a nice mechanic. Addresses issue with never ending liquidity dilution and concentrates flows. There is an irony that with composable platforms/apps you lose control and consistency… yet could bring streaming in-house or partner with mini apps to be trial partners for 6mo to a year. Bring creators onchain. Just iterate toward a better mechanic to allow capital to flow to where it’s most deserved. (Typed this a few days back, and just added a couple of sentences tonight. Could workshop to make it better and more coherent, but figure I’ll share in rough draft form). @jesse.base.eth
Brilliant idea! Yes - and - what if you @jesse.base.eth and team facilitated an asynchronous ideas pitch on a tool like canva (or ask /someone-build this web3 native everyone can submit ideas until the deadline everyone can rate idea and give yes-and co-creative feedback you take this as input and make final decision you create an *army of co-owners* of the solution in terms of products, comms what have you We are still here AND we want to be involved - and you need us to have skin in the game. This is a way. Nothing beats more sense of innit together than co-creation. All the love, all the power cc: @aneri.base.eth @oxb
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Course correct asap. Hire some actual trench Degen’s to tell you the stuff you’re obv not hearing internally. None of your core users like this. You’re risking driving away your core user base in the effort to attract new customers that might not even come. Stop running off your core users with liquidity fragmentation, trader mentality over investment mentality, and just the overall push towards stuff that your core users absolutely hate.
This is my highest engagement post ever. No one likes content coins: https://farcaster.xyz/maretus/0xd6ce234d
Huge fan of CB and Base, so sharing this to try to be constructive: Content Coins seem like very bad investments. So when you are aggressively selling what seem like bad investments it begs the question of whether you do not realize you are selling what seems like a scam or that you do not care that you are scamming your user base. If you really believe in creator coins some better marketing convincing the market why they are good investments could help. And I agree with @tldr that it hurts the larger ecosystem.
Also agree with @links
First, it's great of you, @jesse.base.eth, and the team to consistently remain open to feedback. One of the most encouraging things you do. Secondly, I love the chain. I love creators. I love what Base (the chain) could be. This feedback comes from a place of alignment in that we want what's best for the space. Also, I'll put aside my more general concerns with TBA and discuss the creator coin model in particular. Final caveat: this is feedback on creator coins as they are today. There may be iterations from here that work well. 𝐓𝐋;𝐃𝐑 ① Creator coins don't work. ② Creator coins misalign incentives. ③ Creator coins create more, not less, work for creators. ④ Creator coins turn people into assets. 1a. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗱𝗼𝗻'𝘁 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘄𝘁𝗵. Most importantly from Coinbase's perspective, I don't think it works for the primary KPIs you've made public: growth. I don't see them on Instagram. Or TikTok. Or Youtube. Were they a growth vector from Nick Shirley's audience to Base? Not that I saw. I follow Nick on Web 2 socials and I didn't see him share on existing channels. To the point where I wasn't even sure if it was legit when he first launched. Obviously he received a ton of press, and outside of a few crypto-specific outlets, the creator coin was nowhere mentioned. His content and creator coins seem to essentially be just a secondary income stream. This may work for volume KPIs, but not growth. Great experiment, but the results are in. We've been told that the reason TBA (and creator coins on TBA) exists is to help builders on Base with distribution. But if paying creators thousands of dollars doesn't lead to new users onboarding, it's time to pivot. This isn't just from Zora/TBA, by the way. We've seen iterations of creator coins since 2019/2020: Rally, Roll, Friendtech, etc. All with similar results. 1b. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻'𝘁 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘀. This is most evident on the current leaderboard: routinely TBA's top creator coins derive their value not from creativity, but proximity to Coinbase. Speculators and traders only like a few creator coins and are increasingly getting burned out (see Threadguy's recent video on them). Creators aren't flocking to them. Creator monetization is a solved problem for most creators – to be fair, de-platforming and audience portability remain a problem, although Farcaster/TBA don't solve that yet either. Fans aren't clamoring for them. The masses are completely happy liking/following/subscribing to support creators. Those that want to go deeper have Patreon or YouTube Memberships. Many builders like myself see creator coins as a massive distraction and misuse of resources. When I think about interesting onboarding opportunities, I think about @jacek's Degen or @sayangel's Warplets or @tldr's Bracky or @deployer's BNKR. Creator coins vs. builder support may be a false dichotomy, sure, but resources are finite and must be allocated in some way. Bluntly: if the option is to send a creator 1 BTC or a builder 1 BTC, I'm picking builders every. single. time. 2. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗺𝗶𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗻 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀. The chain is extraordinarily adept at aligning incentives, both inside and outside of financial contexts. Creator coins breaks this feature of the chain. In the current model, in order for creators to make money from their creator coins, they have to dump on their fans. This means that creator coins are just a more convoluted (at best) or dishonest (at worst) Patreon model. Additionally, creators make the most money when not-their-fans are involved: snipers, traders, speculators, etc. This creates an emotional roller coaster: "yay! my coin is up i have so many fans who appreciate my work" to "what did i do wrong? why is my coin down 80%". This is even more dangerous when attached to one's identity rather than one's work (see #4 below). Alternatively, creators have to take @realgarrytan.base.eth's approach of using funds to buyback their own coin, rather than using it to fund creation. This is a self-defeating ponzi scheme, where the creator is perpetually the next person up. 3. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗽𝘂𝘁 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝘂𝗿𝗱𝗲𝗻 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿. We think that the primary burden on creators is financial. Sometimes it is. But in my work over the years with creators and in the creator economy, the primary burden is that of 𝘴𝘱𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘦. Money is just one way in which this lack of space manifests: "I don't have space to create because I need to pay my bills". Creator coins in their current form exchange the financial burden for a social one: "I don't have space to create because everyone who holds my token now is now putting pressure on me to increase token price". Anything that creates more burden on creators is not going to last very long, and in fact could burn relationships with creators rather than attract them. 4. 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗰𝘂𝗹𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗱𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗿𝗼𝘂𝘀. This means art becomes objective and quantified rather than subjective and qualitative. The flip side of "it helps creators get paid!" may be true, but there are already great ways to support creators that don't involve treating them transactionally. Creator coins literally turn people into assets. I think content coins may be closer to what we want, where outputs are tokenized. But having my identity so directly associated with a tradable likely leads to dangerous places. --- I sincerely hope this is read with the care and tone with which I intend. DMs open, always happy to discuss further in feed or in the inbox.
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Well said Derek.
This 💯
Bro really took it personal on creator coins
Preach!
creator coins will make a lot of people churn
@barmstrong 99% true and agree. Nothing has to say. Ok the left 1% - if user (creator) has to buy own token to go uo incharts - this is already fckup. Secondary - all content creators are devaluated by zoraprotocoo . Simple example. 2 users ncpuding author buys a token for 5$ - and no other users are involved (litterally no one holds) . Creator coin - gies up. And shows it has value 10$ already. The next day, the next hour mostly, opening that chart f the token and already see a 50% dump, while nobody of this 2 holders sold a cent.. interesting? - thats true l, personally tested in several platforms - confirm. Token value devaluated the next hour. Lets go deeper . Lets say the next day creator wants to sell - not the 5$ but 2 dollars - and guess what he cant (even invested himself 5) becouse low liqyidity and remember zora on minting has 50% of all creator coins. ? - so the author even if invested himself 5, got a buy from another user for another 5$ - can sell less than 2$ ...
And more fun... what is buying? Wtf is this? Value? Art? What amounts invested into litterally "💩" its nothing good
Your reason said it all, very very meaningful in all perspectives. Appreciated Derek 🟦
the best point you make here imo is not having one’s identity linked to a tradable asset content tokens > creator tokens and something you missed to include is that creator coins have a more complex tax/legal implication aswell. its just a bigger burden on the individual
good point although creator coins could arguably have less tax implications if you argue that they’re tips But yes way more complicated even if so. Thanks for reading!
Super well said, I support this and feel the same way. Thank you.
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Please stfu respectable sir
Damn, dude. Hit the nail on the head several fold here.. couldn’t articulate WHY this system felt foreign and this just laid out every thought that I couldn’t put into the words / string of thought. Cheers!
Incredibly well put 👏 Hope this gives @barmstrong and @base.base.eth team some great points to work from. Just some tweaks needed.
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Well said Derek, which is why i propose @basegaming.base.eth as a good way to take the pressure off creator coins like I did with $jesse by @jesse.base.eth in the game Jesse and the Cybernauts. This takes the pressure off Jesse to create value or pump the price. https://cybernauts.fun Check it out and see how this model solves your problems without hindering the creator economy. My 2 cents
Must read for those interested in the creator coin narrative. This is a great look at the data behind the rhetoric. Good summary from @nickysap.
i don’t disagree… i’m an idealist and hope we can use the tech for more things than speculation - makes me believe a creator token can hold a different value, if we’d let it https://blog.aaronvick.com/creator-tokens-transcend-the-creator-economy
Great read
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creator coins are more than defining utility ————————————————————— it’s about connecting and connection capturing those moments wen u met 🤝 wen u felt we were more than charts 📊 wen u realized it’s a digital connection 🤗💎 speculate somewhere else, lets be frens https://blog.aaronvick.com/creator-tokens-transcend-the-creator-economy
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very much resonates, felt backed into a corner to deploy one because some of the features for creators are now not available to utilize without a creator coin.